WEBVTT 00:00.580 --> 00:02.636 Hey , this is chaplain , Tony repeat 00:02.636 --> 00:04.636 here . Just want to remind you that 00:04.636 --> 00:06.413 this podcast does not imply any 00:06.413 --> 00:08.080 endorsement of any commercial 00:08.080 --> 00:10.302 organization , product or belief system 00:10.360 --> 00:12.471 where everyone is chaplain again here 00:12.471 --> 00:14.693 from biddle air national Guard base the 00:14.693 --> 00:16.582 balance podcast . I'm really glad 00:16.582 --> 00:18.749 you're tuned in today . I have a guest 00:18.749 --> 00:20.971 here that I'm super pumped about . Um , 00:20.971 --> 00:23.027 he's got some just nuggets of wisdom 00:23.027 --> 00:25.193 he's gonna share with you . But before 00:25.193 --> 00:27.304 we dive in , I am just want to remind 00:27.304 --> 00:29.360 you guys that the reason we do these 00:29.360 --> 00:31.693 podcast is to help you to be successful , 00:31.693 --> 00:33.860 both in work and in life in these four 00:33.860 --> 00:36.027 areas that we would call comprehensive 00:36.027 --> 00:37.860 fitness , but they're applicable 00:37.860 --> 00:40.082 whether you're in the military or not . 00:40.082 --> 00:41.971 And those areas are your physical 00:41.971 --> 00:41.530 health , your mental health , your 00:41.530 --> 00:43.863 social health and your spiritual health . 00:43.863 --> 00:47.180 And so I'm super excited today to have 00:47.180 --> 00:49.460 Duke in the house here . He is one of 00:49.460 --> 00:52.820 our bedrock pillars here at this wing 00:52.820 --> 00:54.931 of all the work that he does . And so 00:54.931 --> 00:56.987 what I'm gonna do is ask Duke , just 00:56.987 --> 00:59.153 introduce himself . How long he's been 00:59.153 --> 01:01.153 in the military . What he currently 01:01.153 --> 01:03.098 does here at the 1 11 tackling and 01:03.098 --> 01:02.790 we're gonna launch off into a great 01:02.790 --> 01:04.790 topic today . So hey , Duke , man , 01:04.790 --> 01:07.012 thanks so much for coming in here today 01:07.012 --> 01:09.234 in studio . Yeah , thank you for having 01:09.234 --> 01:11.012 me here today . So for everyone 01:11.012 --> 01:12.957 listening , my name is Duke Elliot 01:12.957 --> 01:15.179 harmon . I've been , I'm first sergeant 01:15.179 --> 01:17.346 here over the , to our first red horse 01:17.346 --> 01:20.190 to the horse . My guys out there . Uh , 01:20.200 --> 01:22.770 I have been in the military now . This 01:22.770 --> 01:26.260 is my 22nd year , uh , many blessings 01:26.260 --> 01:29.790 and many opportunities ? Um , uh , 01:29.800 --> 01:32.400 just still growing , still learning , 01:32.400 --> 01:35.660 Still wanting to get after it And thank 01:35.660 --> 01:37.827 you for having me here today awesome . 01:37.827 --> 01:40.104 You know , I , I love your heart , man . 01:40.104 --> 01:42.216 You just said you're still learning , 01:42.216 --> 01:44.049 you're still growing 22 years in 01:44.049 --> 01:46.160 service , you know ? And so you and I 01:46.160 --> 01:48.327 have had some awesome discussions over 01:48.327 --> 01:48.030 the years here , duke and you've 01:48.030 --> 01:50.370 encouraged me and I hope I've been an 01:50.370 --> 01:52.259 encouragement for you and for our 01:52.259 --> 01:54.370 airmen of what we do here together to 01:54.370 --> 01:57.180 help people . But one thing that sticks 01:57.180 --> 01:59.291 out to me whenever I , I've talked to 01:59.291 --> 02:01.458 you and I watch you in action when you 02:01.458 --> 02:03.513 engage our airmen , whether it's the 02:03.513 --> 02:05.736 folks now with the horse because you're 02:05.736 --> 02:07.847 the first shirt or up there . The one 02:07.847 --> 02:10.180 of the third attack squadron 1/11 0 . S . 02:10.180 --> 02:12.347 S . The O . G . In general as an intel 02:12.347 --> 02:14.124 guy , right ? You are all about 02:14.124 --> 02:16.124 mentoring people , helping people , 02:16.124 --> 02:18.180 getting people in front of resources 02:18.180 --> 02:20.180 and resources in front of people to 02:20.180 --> 02:22.347 help them . And so that's why I wanted 02:22.347 --> 02:24.569 you to come in today to talk about this 02:24.569 --> 02:26.624 concept and sometimes in in military 02:26.624 --> 02:28.458 terms and even corporate terms , 02:28.460 --> 02:30.550 there's an idea of what is mentoring 02:30.560 --> 02:33.070 mentorship and it gets real formal and 02:33.070 --> 02:35.240 its programmatic and I don't have a 02:35.240 --> 02:37.480 problem with that . But the way you do 02:37.480 --> 02:39.591 it , you take the program out of it , 02:39.591 --> 02:41.480 you make it real human . And so I 02:41.480 --> 02:43.860 really want to just ask you how do you 02:43.860 --> 02:46.920 define mentorship , How does duke 02:46.930 --> 02:49.740 define mentorship , mentorship is 02:49.750 --> 02:53.050 something that you do ? It's uh it's 02:53.060 --> 02:55.620 one of those intangible things at least 02:55.620 --> 02:58.750 for me um folks that show up . So 02:58.750 --> 03:01.630 there's concept a lot of concepts that 03:01.640 --> 03:04.680 revolve around mentorship for me um you 03:04.680 --> 03:08.370 know showing up being there uh you know 03:08.380 --> 03:11.000 having that phone available . Um Just 03:11.000 --> 03:14.890 that communication checking in with a 03:14.890 --> 03:17.760 person helping them along their path , 03:17.770 --> 03:20.130 their journey of life . These are the 03:20.140 --> 03:23.070 these are all the things that you know 03:23.080 --> 03:26.940 that revolve around the idea of 03:26.940 --> 03:30.690 mentoring right ? Um And in just the 03:30.690 --> 03:33.300 repetitions of that like hey checking 03:33.300 --> 03:36.040 back in with a person or people or 03:36.040 --> 03:39.230 organizations . Um and and that's 03:39.230 --> 03:43.000 really been uh one of the success 03:43.010 --> 03:45.190 uh for me at least whenever I'm 03:45.190 --> 03:47.860 speaking with individuals or groups or 03:47.870 --> 03:51.160 or whomever I encounter . Um And then 03:51.160 --> 03:53.327 also you know understanding what their 03:53.327 --> 03:56.800 why is . Uh so that's uh I had a 03:56.810 --> 03:59.490 conversation the other day and uh we 03:59.490 --> 04:02.480 were doing we were talking about GpRS 04:02.480 --> 04:04.480 and O . P . R . S . And things like 04:04.480 --> 04:06.850 that . Um and for my supervisors that 04:06.850 --> 04:09.490 are out there uh understand we're in a 04:09.500 --> 04:11.611 guard and we see our members one week 04:11.611 --> 04:13.722 in a month and uh sometimes it's only 04:13.722 --> 04:15.889 that one week and that we really get a 04:15.889 --> 04:18.510 chance to check in one of the biggest 04:18.510 --> 04:20.720 things that we can ask our members 04:20.730 --> 04:23.050 whether they're full time , part time 04:23.060 --> 04:25.930 family members or whoever is asked them 04:25.940 --> 04:29.290 what their why is and refine that , why ? 04:29.340 --> 04:31.960 Right ? You know , why are you here 04:31.960 --> 04:34.280 today ? What did you put on a uniform ? 04:34.290 --> 04:37.500 Uh you know , if you became apparent 04:37.510 --> 04:40.880 and you didn't know like , hey work on 04:40.880 --> 04:43.310 that , right ? Like why figure out what 04:43.310 --> 04:45.990 the why is in your life and and once 04:45.990 --> 04:49.680 you identify that um bring in the 04:49.680 --> 04:52.470 tools , the resources around you in 04:52.470 --> 04:55.890 order to achieve that . Why ? Um and 04:55.900 --> 04:58.011 and that's one of the big things when 04:58.011 --> 05:00.067 we talk about mentorship and we talk 05:00.067 --> 05:03.670 about uh really is that that personal 05:03.680 --> 05:06.580 um that personal engagement and if you 05:06.580 --> 05:08.960 don't have those skills of personally 05:08.960 --> 05:12.330 engage with others , find people who 05:12.340 --> 05:16.180 can man yeah , 05:16.190 --> 05:18.490 you nailed a couple of huge rocks . I 05:18.490 --> 05:21.410 want to unpack there . So , um first of 05:21.410 --> 05:23.521 all you , you said it a few times you 05:23.521 --> 05:25.521 said be available and follow up . I 05:25.521 --> 05:27.854 think humans have such a hard time here . 05:27.854 --> 05:29.966 And that's something I've seen you do 05:29.966 --> 05:32.230 with me with our airmen here , you have 05:32.230 --> 05:34.590 this unbelievable ability to do that . 05:34.600 --> 05:37.830 And when you think about it , um this 05:37.830 --> 05:39.930 is not rocket science , but it's 05:39.930 --> 05:42.800 intentionality to follow back up to to 05:42.800 --> 05:45.630 to to make that phone call um to , to 05:45.630 --> 05:47.797 re engage because sometimes what we do 05:47.797 --> 05:49.852 is we have good intentions initially 05:49.852 --> 05:51.963 and then we just drop , we drop off , 05:51.963 --> 05:54.130 we let the person kind of just go away 05:54.130 --> 05:56.297 if you will , so talk about that for a 05:56.297 --> 05:59.800 minute in your own life , have 06:00.370 --> 06:02.610 the idea of that follow up , have you 06:02.610 --> 06:04.721 seen leaders do that well with you or 06:04.721 --> 06:06.832 have you learned because they haven't 06:06.832 --> 06:09.110 done that well with you over the years ? 06:09.110 --> 06:11.332 Right . Well I'd say the most impactful 06:11.332 --> 06:13.332 ones are the ones that do that they 06:13.332 --> 06:15.554 follow up with you . You know , even if 06:15.554 --> 06:18.250 it's uh it's have these conversations 06:18.250 --> 06:20.400 and not related to a good friend , 06:20.410 --> 06:23.470 right ? Um like in your life we have 06:23.470 --> 06:25.690 good friends that make us who we are , 06:25.700 --> 06:28.820 right ? And uh from knee high , right ? 06:28.820 --> 06:32.390 So from a little kid on up , right ? Uh 06:32.400 --> 06:34.570 what makes that person a good friend ? 06:34.580 --> 06:36.802 Well , well they're in your life ? Well 06:36.802 --> 06:39.390 how are they in your life ? Well , you 06:39.390 --> 06:41.446 know , when I'm having a hard time , 06:41.450 --> 06:43.840 you know , I give him a call or when 06:43.840 --> 06:46.970 I'm going through something joyous , I 06:46.970 --> 06:49.580 give them a call , right ? So as 06:49.580 --> 06:52.180 supervisors for me growing up , I try 06:52.180 --> 06:54.540 to treat everyone . It's not just a 06:54.540 --> 06:57.590 friend , but you know , figuring out 06:57.590 --> 06:59.646 that intention because those are the 06:59.646 --> 07:02.210 things that helped me , you know , help 07:02.210 --> 07:05.850 refine the direction I wanted to go . 07:05.860 --> 07:08.440 Uh what I wanted to achieve in life , 07:08.450 --> 07:12.120 uh things that I have things that I 07:12.120 --> 07:15.540 wanted , I want to have . Um or even 07:15.540 --> 07:17.780 that spiritual bound , you know what I 07:17.780 --> 07:19.780 mean ? That spiritual faith getting 07:19.780 --> 07:23.420 closer to my faith . Uh and and those 07:23.420 --> 07:25.253 are the things at least from the 07:25.253 --> 07:27.364 leaders that I had in my life who who 07:27.364 --> 07:29.990 helped me on my journey , right ? Um 07:30.120 --> 07:32.910 and those are the things that I like to 07:32.910 --> 07:36.590 do back , right ? That um you know , I 07:36.590 --> 07:39.820 had crazy influences uh just little 07:39.820 --> 07:42.620 nuggets of information that people 07:42.630 --> 07:46.050 don't even uh know are aware that they 07:46.050 --> 07:48.840 had an impact , but I remind them of 07:48.840 --> 07:50.970 that because because people have done 07:50.970 --> 07:53.026 that to me , they were like , hey do 07:53.026 --> 07:55.192 you uh do you remember this time where 07:55.192 --> 07:57.770 you helped me ? You know , and 07:57.910 --> 08:00.021 sometimes I don't like I have no idea 08:00.021 --> 08:02.540 that I made that impact , but thank you 08:02.540 --> 08:05.480 for telling me that because that 08:05.480 --> 08:08.150 awareness brings confidence , it brings 08:08.800 --> 08:11.220 intention , it brings dedication , it 08:11.220 --> 08:14.770 brings these different ideas that I 08:14.780 --> 08:17.040 that I gather in my toolbox and and 08:17.040 --> 08:20.910 offer back especially as a leader um in 08:20.920 --> 08:23.900 organization in the organization , 08:23.910 --> 08:26.190 whether it be red horse , whether it be 08:26.190 --> 08:28.468 for the wing , whether it be for the O . 08:28.468 --> 08:31.690 G . Or or wherever I'm at representing 08:31.690 --> 08:33.710 the Air force , a lot of , a lot of 08:33.710 --> 08:36.330 missions , it's just me . Yeah , yeah . 08:36.340 --> 08:40.180 So uh when we unpack that , 08:40.190 --> 08:43.600 it's it's those things that I've been 08:43.600 --> 08:45.990 able to gather that I want to make sure 08:45.990 --> 08:49.370 that I give back because it makes it 08:49.370 --> 08:51.440 makes the world right , Right . And 08:51.450 --> 08:53.394 that's I think where the follow up 08:53.394 --> 08:55.339 comes in is because you know , you 08:55.339 --> 08:57.506 gotta come circle back around to these 08:57.506 --> 08:59.617 individuals because you might you may 08:59.617 --> 09:01.561 not have gotten everything in that 09:01.561 --> 09:03.728 initial sit down with them if you will 09:03.728 --> 09:05.950 and you're able to gather more thoughts 09:05.950 --> 09:08.006 and remember more resources . And so 09:08.006 --> 09:07.790 when you're reaching out your , you 09:07.790 --> 09:09.790 know , your your your dropping some 09:09.790 --> 09:11.957 more of those tools into their toolkit 09:11.957 --> 09:13.846 for them to help them along their 09:13.846 --> 09:16.012 mentoring journey . Right ? So um so I 09:16.012 --> 09:18.123 heard you say that that was the first 09:18.123 --> 09:20.123 one is the key is to follow up . Um 09:20.123 --> 09:22.234 there's no order this because I think 09:22.234 --> 09:24.234 as we unpack a few other things you 09:24.234 --> 09:26.457 said , we could probably move the order 09:26.457 --> 09:28.346 around and how we logically think 09:28.346 --> 09:30.457 through what mentoring is . So follow 09:30.457 --> 09:30.335 up is a key component if you're 09:30.335 --> 09:32.391 mentoring somebody , right ? But but 09:32.391 --> 09:34.391 you mentioned something and you and 09:34.391 --> 09:36.557 I've had these discussions a lot . You 09:36.557 --> 09:38.613 mentioned this idea of find somebody 09:38.615 --> 09:40.671 that will be your mentor , right ? I 09:40.671 --> 09:42.726 think there's an expectation in life 09:42.726 --> 09:45.730 that I'm owed a mentor . Um it's owed 09:45.730 --> 09:48.310 to me . Look , no , there's no such 09:48.310 --> 09:50.670 thing . You know , you don't , we we've 09:50.670 --> 09:52.781 talked about this opportunity doesn't 09:52.781 --> 09:54.892 just fall from the sky and hit you in 09:54.892 --> 09:56.892 the head . You gotta go look for it 09:56.892 --> 09:59.059 just because people are in positions , 09:59.059 --> 10:01.350 whether it's a senior enlisted or it's 10:01.350 --> 10:03.239 a senior officer or an officer in 10:03.239 --> 10:05.406 general . It doesn't mean that they're 10:05.406 --> 10:07.572 gonna be good mentors . So you have to 10:07.572 --> 10:09.683 find them and sometimes you find them 10:09.683 --> 10:11.739 in unbelievable ways , maybe they're 10:11.739 --> 10:13.794 even lower in rank because they have 10:13.794 --> 10:16.017 experiences outside the service or it's 10:16.017 --> 10:18.128 a civilian you're learning from , you 10:18.128 --> 10:19.961 know , that , that repertoire of 10:19.961 --> 10:22.510 finding a mentor . So I'm packed out a 10:22.510 --> 10:24.399 little bit for me too . So talk a 10:24.399 --> 10:26.670 little bit about where where have you 10:26.670 --> 10:29.260 found mentorship and just how do you 10:29.260 --> 10:31.371 encourage others to think outside the 10:31.371 --> 10:34.290 box here ? So , um , for those that 10:34.290 --> 10:36.570 don't know me , and as I'm explaining 10:36.570 --> 10:38.792 myself , like , I'm a big proponent for 10:38.792 --> 10:42.340 family and family has allowed me to do 10:42.350 --> 10:45.950 everything in life . Uh , so for 10:45.950 --> 10:48.890 me , my mentor was my little brother , 10:48.900 --> 10:52.350 right ? So in our journey growing up , 10:52.360 --> 10:54.471 you know , we were in school together 10:54.471 --> 10:56.990 and you know , he was great , he was 10:56.990 --> 10:59.850 two grades younger than me and uh , you 10:59.850 --> 11:02.017 know , I was like , hey man , graduate 11:02.017 --> 11:04.183 this year , you know , kick butt , but 11:04.183 --> 11:06.294 he's always had the ideas . He wanted 11:06.294 --> 11:08.461 to join the military . I never had any 11:08.461 --> 11:10.683 intention on military . I'm going to go 11:10.683 --> 11:12.850 to school , you know , if I joined the 11:12.850 --> 11:15.230 military , they're gonna yell at me all 11:15.230 --> 11:18.970 the all the all the things , right ? So , 11:18.980 --> 11:22.100 you know , I'm going to school , you 11:22.100 --> 11:25.700 know , my second year and I'm 11:25.700 --> 11:27.756 visiting him , this is now his first 11:27.756 --> 11:29.867 year in the military and I was like , 11:29.867 --> 11:31.978 yo , how is it ? He goes , man , it's 11:31.978 --> 11:33.644 not too bad , you know , it's 11:33.644 --> 11:35.867 everything that I was telling you about 11:35.867 --> 11:38.089 and I was like , all right , cool . You 11:38.089 --> 11:40.144 know , they don't yell at you . So I 11:40.144 --> 11:42.367 was like , all right , cool , cool . So 11:42.367 --> 11:42.010 you know , you're running out of money 11:42.020 --> 11:44.370 and you're like , man , I really want 11:44.370 --> 11:47.870 to get back to college . So um so I'm 11:47.870 --> 11:49.981 trying to figure this out , like I'll 11:49.981 --> 11:52.092 go I'll join the military , I'll do a 11:52.092 --> 11:54.259 couple of years and then I'll continue 11:54.259 --> 11:56.780 my education . Um And the one day he 11:56.780 --> 12:00.220 goes to me , he's like , yeah , because 12:00.220 --> 12:02.670 now it's the second year and and he's 12:02.670 --> 12:04.837 like , yeah , I think I'm gonna switch 12:04.837 --> 12:06.948 over and do this career field . And I 12:06.948 --> 12:09.840 was like that's cool because you know 12:09.840 --> 12:12.390 mom and dad they did until they did 12:12.400 --> 12:14.780 different things in the navy and I was 12:14.780 --> 12:17.590 like , okay , that's cool . Uh I'm 12:17.590 --> 12:19.812 gonna be an architect , I'm gonna start 12:19.812 --> 12:23.720 off , see this is what I'm gonna do and 12:23.730 --> 12:26.590 and it's just him encouraging me . So 12:26.590 --> 12:28.880 he was always my role , He was my 12:28.890 --> 12:30.946 mentor , was my role model . And you 12:30.946 --> 12:32.946 said that your younger brother , my 12:32.946 --> 12:35.168 younger brother , see we have this idea 12:35.168 --> 12:37.334 that they got to be older wiser if you 12:37.334 --> 12:39.510 will , but your younger brother and I 12:39.520 --> 12:41.840 joined off went into the Air Force and 12:42.360 --> 12:46.110 um you know uh and he's been there , he 12:46.110 --> 12:48.277 had been there every step of the way , 12:48.277 --> 12:51.050 every step of the way from getting back 12:51.050 --> 12:53.161 to my unit , he didn't know about the 12:53.161 --> 12:56.010 whole guard thing and then the roles 12:56.010 --> 12:58.066 reverse . So now I'm showing him the 12:58.066 --> 13:00.450 guard and and he's showing me an active 13:00.450 --> 13:03.090 and we always had that back and forth . 13:03.100 --> 13:06.980 But so so family , right ? 13:06.990 --> 13:09.500 I looked within um again , right , my 13:09.500 --> 13:12.810 huge proponent of , of looking within 13:12.820 --> 13:15.500 my family and then outside of that , 13:15.510 --> 13:17.480 right ? Uh those are those are my 13:17.480 --> 13:19.890 mentors and then being in the military , 13:20.770 --> 13:23.640 you know , my first military mentors 13:23.650 --> 13:26.210 were uh when I started off I was a 13:26.210 --> 13:29.250 recruiters assistant and uh and and 13:29.250 --> 13:31.440 those , those guys , you know , seeing 13:31.440 --> 13:33.662 a young airman coming in , they scooped 13:33.662 --> 13:35.870 me up , I needed a job there , they're 13:35.880 --> 13:38.990 able to put me on some orders and they 13:39.000 --> 13:41.230 really helped direct my military career 13:41.230 --> 13:44.420 path along the way , got me introduced 13:44.420 --> 13:48.150 to different programs um and and 13:48.160 --> 13:50.327 that was it from the first year , just 13:50.327 --> 13:52.610 kind of shot out and uh and I've been 13:52.610 --> 13:56.280 rolling ever since . Uh so it 13:56.290 --> 13:58.810 in , so in that aspect the 13:58.810 --> 14:01.960 mentor I didn't necessarily seek it , 14:01.960 --> 14:04.210 it just came to me , you know , just 14:04.210 --> 14:07.070 folks looking out for me , right ? Um 14:07.080 --> 14:09.890 really just trying to help guide me 14:09.890 --> 14:12.630 along my journey , right ? Um whether 14:12.630 --> 14:15.180 it was having things like moving out , 14:15.180 --> 14:18.760 getting my own apartment and point me 14:18.760 --> 14:21.300 in the direction that I needed to be at 14:21.310 --> 14:24.070 at the time that I needed to be , that 14:24.070 --> 14:27.840 I wanted to be there . So uh and 14:27.840 --> 14:31.830 then as I got higher in rank or even 14:31.830 --> 14:34.230 in different situations , it's me 14:34.230 --> 14:37.150 recognizing , you know , myself and 14:37.150 --> 14:40.390 other folks , so that was me giving 14:40.390 --> 14:42.612 back . Like that was , oh you know what 14:42.612 --> 14:44.834 I went through that same thing , here's 14:44.834 --> 14:46.612 here's how you can navigate the 14:46.612 --> 14:47.580 situation 14:50.220 --> 14:52.940 and when you , when you see people like 14:52.940 --> 14:55.107 that , you know , we talk about mentor 14:55.107 --> 14:57.162 and you see folks like that that are 14:57.162 --> 14:59.630 that are offering that help , you know 14:59.630 --> 15:01.990 dig deeper , you know , ask the 15:01.990 --> 15:05.690 following question . Um if you see that 15:05.690 --> 15:07.746 correction right ? Because you never 15:07.746 --> 15:09.970 know where at a certain point you'll 15:09.970 --> 15:13.940 never know where a mentor is at um in 15:13.950 --> 15:17.220 in in the person as you meet them . So 15:18.040 --> 15:20.096 I think to the one thing that you're 15:20.096 --> 15:22.380 you're pointing out is uh and you 15:22.380 --> 15:24.436 mentioned at the beginning , I wanna 15:24.436 --> 15:26.602 nail again that you are still learning 15:26.602 --> 15:29.280 and you desire to grow . It's you can't 15:29.280 --> 15:31.900 infuse that into people , right ? So 15:31.910 --> 15:34.230 part of mentoring is being willing to 15:34.230 --> 15:37.530 learn from any and anybody again 15:37.540 --> 15:40.310 younger than you less rank than you and 15:40.310 --> 15:42.532 those obviously to have more experience 15:42.532 --> 15:44.754 and rank than you because at the end of 15:44.754 --> 15:46.921 the day we're all try and we should be 15:46.921 --> 15:48.921 trying to grow and improve . But we 15:48.921 --> 15:50.810 also then I use this technique in 15:50.810 --> 15:52.699 counseling when I counsel someone 15:52.699 --> 15:52.345 through a hard time , you know what 15:52.345 --> 15:54.665 I'll tell them as we get through their 15:54.665 --> 15:56.845 difficult scenario situation . Maybe 15:56.845 --> 15:59.235 some practical tools I will tell them 15:59.245 --> 16:01.355 now you need to be ready to help 16:01.355 --> 16:05.230 somebody with . Yeah because you know 16:05.230 --> 16:07.563 you you you've been through a hard time , 16:07.563 --> 16:09.619 the best thing we can do is pay that 16:09.619 --> 16:11.786 forward , and so what I like about the 16:11.786 --> 16:14.063 approach you take in mentoring , again , 16:14.063 --> 16:16.286 it's not formulaic , you're not talking 16:16.286 --> 16:18.508 about every week , you come together on 16:18.508 --> 16:20.674 a spreadsheet and you check your block 16:20.674 --> 16:19.985 and you circle it and you put a diamond 16:19.985 --> 16:22.152 around it . You know , again , there's 16:22.152 --> 16:24.374 nothing wrong with doing those things , 16:24.374 --> 16:26.429 but when we make them programmatic , 16:26.429 --> 16:28.541 they're not natural . Yeah , you lose 16:28.541 --> 16:30.874 it , right ? So , so , again , the arts , 16:30.874 --> 16:33.096 the arts and the follow up the arts and 16:33.096 --> 16:35.263 a good attitude and seeking out people 16:35.263 --> 16:37.425 seek information and just take what 16:37.425 --> 16:39.845 people give . You , try to apply it , 16:39.855 --> 16:41.799 try to grow and learn from it , be 16:41.799 --> 16:44.130 willing to give it away ? And then this 16:44.130 --> 16:46.186 third concept that you mentioned , I 16:46.186 --> 16:48.352 want to talk a little bit about this , 16:48.352 --> 16:50.408 I think in another podcast I brought 16:50.408 --> 16:52.574 this up , but I think this is relevant 16:52.574 --> 16:54.686 right now , because you mention it um 16:54.686 --> 16:57.500 is this idea of the why , how to keep 16:57.500 --> 16:59.740 the why alive ? Because if you have a 16:59.740 --> 17:03.000 why you're gonna be hungry to not only 17:03.000 --> 17:05.167 learn , but you're gonna be passionate 17:05.167 --> 17:07.850 about dumping into other people ? Right . 17:07.860 --> 17:09.970 That's what mentoring is . So talk 17:09.970 --> 17:13.710 about how do how do you drum up a why 17:13.710 --> 17:16.850 or how do we how do we hold onto our y 17:18.020 --> 17:20.076 like you said , how do you drum up ? 17:20.076 --> 17:22.320 What is your why you wake up in the 17:22.320 --> 17:25.910 morning and you're starting your day 17:26.800 --> 17:30.590 your y could be anything , it can 17:30.590 --> 17:32.730 come from everywhere whether you're 17:32.730 --> 17:34.897 looking yourself in the mirror and say 17:34.897 --> 17:36.952 you know what I'm gonna wash my face 17:36.952 --> 17:39.063 today . That's my why for that moment 17:39.063 --> 17:41.008 for that second and then you start 17:41.008 --> 17:43.310 building on your wise and eventually 17:43.310 --> 17:45.477 you're gonna get to a point where it's 17:45.477 --> 17:47.254 like you know what I want to do 17:47.254 --> 17:49.410 something right ? Whether it's 17:50.500 --> 17:53.810 run you know physical uh some sort of 17:53.810 --> 17:56.460 physical activity every day whether it 17:56.470 --> 17:59.840 be uh you know attaining a financial 17:59.840 --> 18:02.470 goal , whether it be attaining a 18:02.480 --> 18:05.650 monetary goal . Um Your wives can come 18:05.650 --> 18:08.320 from it heck . It can even be from your 18:08.330 --> 18:11.250 kid's dad . I want to go to Disneyland . 18:12.160 --> 18:14.440 Well there's an unexpected why ? 18:15.220 --> 18:18.930 Okay so so that's the goal 18:18.940 --> 18:22.180 right ? Um Your wise your 18:22.180 --> 18:25.340 intention your why is your can equal 18:25.340 --> 18:28.790 your intention um in life And it can 18:28.800 --> 18:32.770 be you know organizationally set 18:32.780 --> 18:35.330 you know strives like A . L . S . N . C . 18:35.330 --> 18:38.130 O . A . All all your P . M . E . Stuff 18:38.140 --> 18:41.650 or it can be self driven right ? Um And 18:41.650 --> 18:44.650 if you can marry the two or if you can 18:44.660 --> 18:48.190 figure out a way to balance balance the 18:48.190 --> 18:51.790 two um their lives in your why ? 18:51.800 --> 18:55.180 Um don't overthink it it doesn't have 18:55.180 --> 18:57.347 to be rocket science . It doesn't have 18:57.347 --> 19:00.380 to be uh and that's a bad analogy 19:00.390 --> 19:02.900 because it could be rocket science 19:03.580 --> 19:06.870 but it doesn't have to be hard um 19:06.880 --> 19:10.300 Smart start with small things and and 19:10.300 --> 19:13.920 move to the next uh and as soon as you 19:13.930 --> 19:17.900 accomplish that goal or that y um 19:17.910 --> 19:21.660 you know , seek another y or or allow 19:21.660 --> 19:25.150 yourself to be open to another Y um 19:25.860 --> 19:27.830 and that's really , that's that's 19:27.830 --> 19:30.900 really it . Uh and if you are a mentor 19:30.900 --> 19:34.670 or if you are a parent guardian , um 19:34.680 --> 19:37.770 and you're , and you see a person that 19:38.830 --> 19:42.550 is a little lost , ask them , hey , why 19:42.550 --> 19:46.440 are you lost ? Why are 19:46.440 --> 19:48.662 you doing the thing that you're doing ? 19:48.662 --> 19:50.850 You know ? Um So some people never 19:50.850 --> 19:54.700 think about , well I'm a parent , 19:54.710 --> 19:57.740 I'm supposed to do this or I'm supposed 19:57.740 --> 20:01.300 to do that , but that why 20:01.300 --> 20:04.630 is your drive can be your drive , you 20:04.630 --> 20:06.852 know , is that what you want to do ? Or 20:06.852 --> 20:09.300 is that what it is expected from you 20:10.110 --> 20:12.830 and you have to be able to to figure 20:12.830 --> 20:15.780 that out or at least be around others 20:15.780 --> 20:17.836 that help you figure out your life . 20:17.836 --> 20:20.002 That's good . That's good . So there's 20:20.002 --> 20:22.113 a lot of , a lot of introspective , a 20:22.113 --> 20:24.860 lot of guidance and pushing whenever 20:24.870 --> 20:27.092 you find your life . Yeah , I think you 20:27.092 --> 20:29.092 just said introspection is is uh is 20:29.092 --> 20:32.760 that wrestling with my purpose and my 20:32.770 --> 20:34.770 aiming towards ? I think there's an 20:34.770 --> 20:36.881 element of curiosity that connects to 20:36.881 --> 20:38.937 it that should lead us to to to find 20:38.937 --> 20:40.881 people that can mentor because I'm 20:40.881 --> 20:43.103 curious about this area of my life that 20:43.103 --> 20:45.270 I want to improve in or this promotion 20:45.270 --> 20:47.381 that I want or how do I navigate this 20:47.381 --> 20:49.603 new a fsc or if I'm a spouse , how do I 20:49.603 --> 20:52.940 get a job where you know , next week my 20:52.940 --> 20:55.260 spouse , we might move to another state 20:55.260 --> 20:58.570 or go on a T dY somewhere that I'm 20:58.570 --> 21:00.626 gonna leave for a while . Right ? So 21:00.626 --> 21:04.250 all these elements . So um for those 21:04.250 --> 21:06.417 that are listening then , right , I'll 21:06.417 --> 21:08.639 try to make this a little bit practical 21:08.910 --> 21:11.188 because you know , it could be awkward . 21:11.188 --> 21:13.466 Like what do you just approach someone ? 21:13.466 --> 21:13.460 Like , hey , can you mentor me ? That's 21:13.460 --> 21:15.516 not how it really works . Right . So 21:15.516 --> 21:17.627 how do you , how do you tell somebody 21:17.627 --> 21:19.849 that's listening right now who has some 21:19.849 --> 21:22.530 curiosity about whatever it may be in 21:22.530 --> 21:25.700 life and they want to seek someone out ? 21:25.710 --> 21:28.680 Give give some examples of or ways 21:28.680 --> 21:30.847 practical ways that they can do this . 21:30.847 --> 21:34.220 So , so if you're , if you 21:34.220 --> 21:38.010 are a student and you're at school 21:38.020 --> 21:41.860 and you want to do something or if you , 21:41.870 --> 21:45.570 if , if you want to be a teacher , 21:45.580 --> 21:49.020 right ? Let's just use that . You 21:49.020 --> 21:51.100 should just ask the teacher . Yeah , 21:51.110 --> 21:53.166 It's that simple , right ? It can be 21:53.166 --> 21:55.388 that simple , right ? If you go to work 21:55.388 --> 21:58.990 every day and you find yourself , uh 21:59.000 --> 22:02.810 maybe not happy , right ? And you 22:02.810 --> 22:05.300 say , I want to change that and you see 22:05.300 --> 22:07.300 another person happy talk to them , 22:07.310 --> 22:10.190 right ? Like sometimes it's just that 22:10.200 --> 22:13.200 simple of hey , like why is it that 22:13.200 --> 22:15.720 you're happy ? Right ? Why is it that 22:15.730 --> 22:17.897 every time I see you , you're drinking 22:17.897 --> 22:19.952 coffee every day . Is it because you 22:19.952 --> 22:22.174 like it or is it an addiction ? I don't 22:22.174 --> 22:24.063 know which one is , it could be a 22:24.063 --> 22:26.820 little both . But um , but but asking 22:26.820 --> 22:29.840 them , um , I've had , but I've also 22:29.840 --> 22:33.460 had people out of the blues come to me 22:33.460 --> 22:35.460 and said , Hey Duke , I want you to 22:35.460 --> 22:38.450 mentor me and you know what we from 22:38.450 --> 22:41.290 that ? Like we , well , okay , let's , 22:41.300 --> 22:43.810 let's talk about it . Yeah . So what is 22:43.810 --> 22:45.921 it , what is your , why ? Like , what 22:45.921 --> 22:48.143 is it that you want to get after ? Um , 22:48.143 --> 22:50.830 and I've had to turn some away because 22:50.840 --> 22:54.020 I wasn't the right fit for their why ? 22:54.030 --> 22:57.510 But we have discussed that we figured 22:57.510 --> 22:59.843 that out between the two of us and says , 22:59.843 --> 23:02.010 hey , you know what ? You want to be a 23:02.010 --> 23:05.030 pilot ? I'm not a pilot , but I know a 23:05.030 --> 23:08.080 pilot that has the space and has a 23:08.080 --> 23:10.830 breadth of knowledge and the wisdom to , 23:10.840 --> 23:13.240 to put you on the right path . And then 23:13.250 --> 23:16.290 what I do then is I follow up . So the 23:16.290 --> 23:18.740 next week , hey , how did the 23:18.740 --> 23:21.520 conversation go ? Oh well you didn't 23:21.520 --> 23:23.742 talk to him . Why not ? You didn't talk 23:23.742 --> 23:27.010 to you or not ? It was a bad time . 23:27.020 --> 23:29.950 When is a good time ? Um , and then 23:29.960 --> 23:33.760 after that I'll follow up again . 23:33.770 --> 23:35.548 Hey , did you finally have that 23:35.548 --> 23:39.090 conversation ? Oh you did , how'd it go ? 23:39.100 --> 23:42.100 Well let's keep that going because I'm 23:42.100 --> 23:44.260 gonna ask you later on , just like we 23:44.260 --> 23:47.970 said before to help guide someone else . 23:48.600 --> 23:51.060 That's fantastic . Yeah . I mean I 23:51.060 --> 23:53.120 think I want to point this out , you 23:53.120 --> 23:55.342 just mentioned that you you weren't the 23:55.342 --> 23:57.342 one that gave some direct knowledge 23:57.342 --> 23:59.676 about becoming a pilot cause you're not , 23:59.676 --> 24:01.731 but you still mentors your mentoring 24:01.731 --> 24:03.564 them because you're helping them 24:03.564 --> 24:05.731 connect to the right resource that can 24:05.731 --> 24:07.787 help them . And then the key again , 24:07.787 --> 24:07.620 you talked about this earlier is that 24:07.620 --> 24:09.731 the arts , the arts and the follow up 24:09.800 --> 24:11.911 saying and being intentional about it 24:11.911 --> 24:14.060 coming back around . So again , this 24:14.060 --> 24:17.540 doesn't seem like it's super difficult . 24:17.550 --> 24:19.550 And sometimes I think we don't even 24:19.550 --> 24:21.606 realize we're probably mentoring and 24:21.606 --> 24:23.740 being mentored . Um , but but we all 24:23.740 --> 24:27.220 need this in our life period . So for 24:27.220 --> 24:29.442 those of you that are listening and you 24:29.442 --> 24:31.660 don't have somebody , maybe you're , 24:31.660 --> 24:33.827 you're just like , it's not worth it . 24:33.827 --> 24:35.938 They don't have the time . Look , you 24:35.938 --> 24:38.049 know , Duke mention a couple things . 24:38.049 --> 24:40.216 One you can find someone to mentor you 24:40.216 --> 24:42.327 too . You just ask good questions and 24:42.327 --> 24:44.438 that leads you to the right resources 24:44.438 --> 24:43.980 that lead you to the right 24:43.980 --> 24:46.230 relationships that that , that you need 24:46.230 --> 24:48.290 to connect you to where your wife is 24:48.290 --> 24:51.560 taking you right . Um And and again , I 24:51.560 --> 24:53.727 think we all need to , and you could , 24:53.727 --> 24:55.893 you could back me up on this dude . We 24:55.893 --> 24:58.116 need to stop looking at it as they need 24:58.116 --> 25:00.227 to be a higher rank . They need to be 25:00.227 --> 25:02.449 better off financially if it's finances 25:02.449 --> 25:04.393 they need to be better in physical 25:04.393 --> 25:04.120 fitness because it's not always the 25:04.120 --> 25:07.920 case . Um , the , the key though is I 25:07.920 --> 25:10.610 think is connecting with somebody or , 25:10.620 --> 25:13.030 or people in general and then being 25:13.030 --> 25:15.800 willing to now Dump that knowledge into 25:15.800 --> 25:18.360 somebody else . If we , if we did that 25:18.370 --> 25:20.481 and I think we do a good job at the 1 25:20.481 --> 25:22.537 11 to this , I can't , I can't speak 25:22.537 --> 25:24.759 for the first shirts what they're doing 25:24.759 --> 25:26.759 now . But with you on that team , I 25:26.759 --> 25:28.926 can't see how they're not , you know , 25:28.926 --> 25:31.092 that this shirt , this shirt group has 25:31.092 --> 25:33.314 got to be the best group that I've seen 25:33.314 --> 25:32.780 since I've been here and that's no 25:32.780 --> 25:35.058 knock on previous shirt groups . Right ? 25:35.058 --> 25:38.040 But you know , just this idea of 25:38.040 --> 25:40.870 mentorship . So , and with this , you 25:40.870 --> 25:43.092 know , even with us within the shirts , 25:43.092 --> 25:45.300 there's often times where I have to 25:45.300 --> 25:47.900 call a shirt and be like , hey , I need 25:47.900 --> 25:50.700 help with this . Now . I get it for 25:50.700 --> 25:52.478 those that , who are not in the 25:52.478 --> 25:54.422 military and understand , um , the 25:54.422 --> 25:56.367 shirt life , right ? So there's an 25:56.367 --> 25:58.589 expectation as leaders , there's always 25:58.589 --> 26:00.960 gonna be an underlying expectation that 26:00.970 --> 26:04.360 you either know everything or , or 26:04.370 --> 26:07.370 are have the answers for everything . 26:07.380 --> 26:10.280 Um , and that's not the case . So as 26:10.280 --> 26:12.730 our council , right , we lean on one 26:12.730 --> 26:15.640 another all the time and , and that's 26:15.640 --> 26:18.590 what we're there for . Um , one of the , 26:18.600 --> 26:21.980 one of the cool , coolest advice that I , 26:21.990 --> 26:24.323 that I've gotten from one of my leaders , 26:24.323 --> 26:28.020 My previous leaders was uh 26:28.030 --> 26:32.030 ship doesn't turn on a dime . Mm And 26:32.030 --> 26:35.310 you have to , you know , tell hey we 26:35.310 --> 26:37.620 need to go left , right or we have to , 26:37.630 --> 26:39.850 we have to ease our way to left or 26:39.850 --> 26:42.340 right . So when we make these decisions 26:42.350 --> 26:46.070 um or if we have uh guidance to our 26:46.070 --> 26:48.970 commanders , our shirts , right ? Um we 26:48.970 --> 26:51.810 have to take a step back and and really 26:51.810 --> 26:54.970 be able to piecemeal um make sure that 26:54.970 --> 26:58.160 we have all the variations of the 26:58.160 --> 27:01.000 answers so so that they can make a 27:01.000 --> 27:03.278 decision , you know , so that you know , 27:03.278 --> 27:05.111 we empower them to make the best 27:05.111 --> 27:08.030 decision possible . Um Yeah , so that's 27:08.040 --> 27:11.420 you know , our council and us leaning 27:11.420 --> 27:14.320 on one another , that's that is all 27:14.330 --> 27:16.800 part of that mentorship to each other 27:16.800 --> 27:20.110 all the time . Um and sometimes and you 27:20.110 --> 27:22.332 kind of mentioned this earlier previous 27:22.332 --> 27:24.680 shirts , there's a saying once a shirt , 27:24.680 --> 27:27.290 always a shirt and I can't tell you how 27:27.290 --> 27:30.540 many previous shirts that I go to for , 27:30.600 --> 27:33.840 for advice , right ? For mentorship , 27:33.850 --> 27:37.820 right ? For guidance on decisions ? 27:37.830 --> 27:41.620 Uh Some of my my 27:41.620 --> 27:44.680 colleagues and leaders who even within 27:44.690 --> 27:48.610 uh my O . G . Organization , uh I go to 27:48.610 --> 27:50.970 them and I say , hey , am I seeing 27:50.970 --> 27:53.680 something ? Right ? Um is this 27:53.690 --> 27:57.320 is this what I see , is that is that 27:57.320 --> 27:59.653 what I'm seeing or is it something else ? 27:59.653 --> 28:01.820 Right ? Um if I want to make an impact 28:01.820 --> 28:04.042 or if I want to change something in the 28:04.042 --> 28:06.098 organization , I don't just make the 28:06.098 --> 28:09.040 change I seek the advice of others . 28:09.040 --> 28:11.151 Right ? That's part of that mentor as 28:11.151 --> 28:13.373 part of that group that that's not just 28:13.373 --> 28:15.860 senior leaders but as leaders generally 28:15.860 --> 28:19.660 speaking is uh is you try to get the 28:20.720 --> 28:24.630 the most out of the others that are 28:24.630 --> 28:27.320 around you as far as information hey , 28:27.330 --> 28:31.070 when you want to make a change um and 28:31.080 --> 28:33.302 and it's awesome because they just feed 28:33.302 --> 28:36.530 into me as I give it right back out to 28:36.530 --> 28:38.850 not just younger folks but the people 28:38.850 --> 28:42.270 around me um because it's a it's always 28:42.270 --> 28:45.520 a two way street of information . Yeah , 28:45.530 --> 28:47.752 it sounds like to me you've adopted and 28:47.752 --> 28:49.863 I know I have in a minute , I'm gonna 28:49.863 --> 28:52.120 share a resource that I've been using 28:52.120 --> 28:54.342 and going to and maybe you have some as 28:54.342 --> 28:56.509 well but mentoring for you , it's just 28:56.509 --> 28:58.731 a way of life . That's why I look at it 28:58.731 --> 29:00.898 with my kids at home , when I , when I 29:00.898 --> 29:03.280 counsel folks here , I look at every 29:03.280 --> 29:05.502 opportunity as a mentor opportunity and 29:05.502 --> 29:07.613 I seek it . I see it a lot from other 29:07.613 --> 29:09.780 folks to make sure like you had said , 29:09.780 --> 29:11.947 am I thinking right about this because 29:11.947 --> 29:14.169 you know in the shirt roll Chaplin role 29:14.169 --> 29:16.169 we advise a lot and we're trying to 29:16.169 --> 29:19.200 give advice and not tell people like 29:19.210 --> 29:21.950 you should be done this way but to give 29:21.950 --> 29:24.117 different flavors and let them kind of 29:24.117 --> 29:27.000 see the bigger picture , right ? Um we 29:27.010 --> 29:29.066 develop our leaderships , you know ? 29:29.066 --> 29:31.343 Yes , we develop our leadership skills , 29:31.343 --> 29:35.260 you find that the best leaders 29:35.270 --> 29:38.530 are asking their , their circle , their 29:38.530 --> 29:41.870 team on a decision . They just they're 29:41.870 --> 29:45.520 not making the jerk reaction uh to a 29:45.520 --> 29:47.631 decision . I mean of course there are 29:47.631 --> 29:50.050 gonna be times that you have to as a 29:50.050 --> 29:52.540 leader and yes , you're gonna fall , 29:52.540 --> 29:55.250 you're going to bump your head , you 29:55.250 --> 29:58.530 may injure yourself , but if you have a 29:58.530 --> 30:01.730 good team there and if you have a good 30:02.280 --> 30:05.770 support system , right mentors , um 30:05.780 --> 30:09.110 colleagues , they're gonna help you get 30:09.110 --> 30:12.570 back to the right decision or they may 30:12.570 --> 30:14.681 even stop that decision . Okay , No , 30:14.830 --> 30:17.470 that's that's not it , right well , and 30:17.470 --> 30:19.414 if they know your heart too , they 30:19.414 --> 30:21.192 allow you and give you latitude 30:21.192 --> 30:23.303 sometimes to to fail if you will make 30:23.303 --> 30:26.250 mistakes because you're willing to to 30:26.250 --> 30:28.250 take feedback and advice and you're 30:28.250 --> 30:30.194 willing to give it and that mentor 30:30.194 --> 30:32.472 mentee kind of relationship , you know ? 30:32.472 --> 30:34.694 So , so as we , as we , as we get close 30:34.694 --> 30:34.530 to to wrapping this up and do I want to 30:34.530 --> 30:36.752 have you back on some other topics , we 30:36.752 --> 30:38.808 could probably flesh out five or six 30:38.808 --> 30:41.030 more , but the one book for me and I'll 30:41.030 --> 30:43.030 get I'll give you a chance to maybe 30:43.030 --> 30:45.086 share a resource a book I read years 30:45.086 --> 30:47.141 ago , it's still super relevant . Um 30:47.141 --> 30:49.252 it's called the mentor leader by Tony 30:49.252 --> 30:51.760 Dungy , so Dungy is an analyst for 30:51.770 --> 30:55.210 football on NBC sunday night football 30:55.210 --> 30:57.377 was a coach , super winning coach , he 30:57.377 --> 30:59.599 played for the Pittsburgh Steelers back 30:59.599 --> 31:01.670 in the seventies . He has um just a 31:01.680 --> 31:05.020 really amazing soft approach , loving 31:05.020 --> 31:07.131 these young athletes and get into the 31:07.131 --> 31:09.187 league and helping mentor them along 31:09.187 --> 31:11.131 the way . So that's a resource . I 31:11.131 --> 31:13.131 recommend . Called again the mentor 31:13.131 --> 31:15.242 leader by Tony Dungy . Um do you have 31:15.242 --> 31:17.409 anything to offer up or share ? I do . 31:17.409 --> 31:19.576 There's a book that when I was down at 31:19.576 --> 31:21.687 shirt , shirt school , first sergeant 31:21.687 --> 31:25.550 school , uh fellow shirt who was going 31:25.550 --> 31:28.140 through the program with me . He uh he 31:28.140 --> 31:30.090 gave me a book and then it kind of 31:30.090 --> 31:33.110 impacted me . Uh finding your , why ? 31:33.120 --> 31:36.200 Finding your wise , practical guide for 31:36.200 --> 31:38.560 discovering purpose for you and your 31:38.560 --> 31:42.010 team by David Mead . Uh Peter Docker 31:42.020 --> 31:45.580 and Simon Sinek . So Simon Sinek as 31:45.580 --> 31:49.120 most folks may have heard of does 31:49.120 --> 31:52.920 podcast , does uh he does 31:52.930 --> 31:56.930 Youtube videos , but he helps finding 31:56.930 --> 32:00.680 that y and as leaders when we 32:00.960 --> 32:03.990 raise a team or build a team or 32:04.000 --> 32:06.440 injected into a team . That's one of 32:06.440 --> 32:09.210 the things , uh you want to know where 32:09.210 --> 32:11.930 you're at your purpose , your role , 32:11.940 --> 32:14.940 you have to find out your why . Um and 32:14.940 --> 32:18.150 that was something that I pass on . And 32:18.160 --> 32:20.580 uh and one last thing , so this morning 32:20.580 --> 32:22.580 I had a conversation me checking in 32:22.580 --> 32:24.940 with uh one of my leaders in my section . 32:26.880 --> 32:30.830 Yeah , I was like , hey man , do 32:30.830 --> 32:32.941 am I seeing what I what I think I see 32:32.941 --> 32:36.070 here . Um and we went through it and he 32:36.070 --> 32:38.570 goes I have something for you uh to 32:38.570 --> 32:41.520 share . Uh So I'm gonna read this here , 32:41.530 --> 32:45.460 It's by Earl Nightingale . Um One hour 32:45.460 --> 32:48.480 per day of study in your chosen field 32:48.490 --> 32:52.020 is all it takes , one hour per day of 32:52.020 --> 32:54.330 study will put you at the top of your 32:54.330 --> 32:57.300 field within three years , Within five 32:57.300 --> 33:00.130 years you'll be a national authority in 33:00.130 --> 33:02.130 seven years , you can be one of the 33:02.130 --> 33:05.100 best people in the world at what you do 33:05.490 --> 33:08.540 one hour a day , one hour a day . How 33:08.550 --> 33:11.050 like practical is that ? It can be done . 33:11.350 --> 33:13.406 Yeah . So as you're looking for your 33:13.406 --> 33:15.960 why and you're looking for you know 33:15.960 --> 33:19.000 your mentor or or you are 33:19.000 --> 33:22.720 mentoring someone . You know , just 33:22.720 --> 33:25.500 remember that , Just remember it takes 33:25.500 --> 33:28.900 one hour a day to get good at or 33:30.350 --> 33:32.500 that's awesome . Yeah it can be done 33:32.510 --> 33:34.621 but like anything else you have to do 33:34.621 --> 33:38.110 it right ? Just do it . Yeah . So 33:38.400 --> 33:40.622 this has been really good dude . I know 33:40.622 --> 33:42.789 our folks here at the wing that listen 33:42.789 --> 33:45.380 folks that listen again across the D . 33:45.380 --> 33:47.760 O . D . There's no way that there's not 33:47.760 --> 33:49.982 something they take out of this again . 33:49.982 --> 33:52.204 If there's if you are a learner and you 33:52.204 --> 33:54.371 want to grow in life and you just want 33:54.371 --> 33:56.427 different perspectives , you want to 33:56.427 --> 33:58.316 become a better leader , a better 33:58.316 --> 34:00.538 mentor , better men tva and to know how 34:00.538 --> 34:02.860 to ask questions to somebody to help 34:02.870 --> 34:05.940 them or to help you get to that wide in 34:05.940 --> 34:08.110 life and where you wanna go . Um then 34:08.110 --> 34:10.277 this is the podcast for you . I'm glad 34:10.277 --> 34:12.520 you tuned in today . Uh So I want to 34:12.520 --> 34:14.742 just summarize a couple of things as we 34:14.742 --> 34:16.909 close today . Right . So you mentioned 34:16.909 --> 34:19.020 again , not in any particular order , 34:19.020 --> 34:22.520 that 1 . 1 of the keys is we gotta 34:22.520 --> 34:24.780 figure out or why if we have a , why 34:24.780 --> 34:27.020 it's going to lead us to ask questions 34:27.030 --> 34:29.370 to find the right mentor , if you will 34:29.380 --> 34:31.760 to to get to where we are trying to get 34:31.760 --> 34:33.704 to . And then in turn you become a 34:33.704 --> 34:35.704 mentor to someone who's been in the 34:35.704 --> 34:38.220 same situation . There's a , there's a , 34:38.230 --> 34:40.230 there's an art and a science if you 34:40.230 --> 34:42.980 will in the follow up so of mentors , 34:42.990 --> 34:45.046 you know , follow up with folks that 34:45.046 --> 34:47.268 you're , you're helping along the way . 34:47.268 --> 34:49.157 And again I want to have you back 34:49.157 --> 34:48.970 because we can flush a couple of things 34:48.970 --> 34:51.420 out a little deeper . Um and then I 34:51.420 --> 34:54.960 would say 1/4 1 is just got to do this , 34:54.970 --> 34:57.150 Just just do it , just do it , just 34:57.150 --> 34:59.261 take a step forward and in one hour a 34:59.261 --> 35:01.372 day with you get good at your craft , 35:01.372 --> 35:03.483 you get good at mentoring and talking 35:03.483 --> 35:05.830 to folks . Um that's gonna just expand 35:05.830 --> 35:08.810 your leadership capacity um in your 35:08.810 --> 35:10.810 role in the military , your role at 35:10.810 --> 35:13.310 home as a parent and your , your role 35:13.310 --> 35:15.421 in a company outside the military one 35:15.421 --> 35:17.588 day . Um it will , it will prove to be 35:17.588 --> 35:19.421 just immeasurable for , for your 35:19.421 --> 35:21.754 personal growth and professional growth . 35:21.754 --> 35:24.250 Um , so Duke , I'm so grateful that you 35:24.250 --> 35:26.800 came in today . Thanks for sitting down 35:26.810 --> 35:29.320 again . We're gonna do this again . Um , 35:29.330 --> 35:31.460 and again , this is the podcast here 35:31.470 --> 35:33.581 called the balance that that we do at 35:33.581 --> 35:35.637 biddle Air National Guard Base . I'm 35:35.637 --> 35:37.692 chaplain , Tony replica . Again , we 35:37.692 --> 35:39.526 are trying to give you tools and 35:39.526 --> 35:41.192 resources to make you uh more 35:41.192 --> 35:44.110 successful and work and healthy in life 35:44.110 --> 35:45.888 or vice versa , healthy at work 35:45.888 --> 35:47.888 successful in life , but tie it all 35:47.888 --> 35:49.888 together so that your , your mind , 35:49.888 --> 35:52.400 your body , your social sphere and your 35:52.400 --> 35:55.890 spiritual um , capacity is 35:55.890 --> 35:59.120 developing , growing and increasing . 35:59.130 --> 36:01.186 Um , so again , thanks for tuning in 36:01.186 --> 36:03.297 and hey , we're out here have a great 36:03.297 --> 36:03.260 day .